Saturday, December 10, 2005

Washington State Democratic Party Mocks Christianity

Democratic intolerance continues its march towards persecution.

From WoldNetDaily:
The official website of Washington State Democrats sold magnetic car stickers of the Christian fish symbol and cross emblazoned
(above) with the word "hypocrite" on a background of hellish flames.

The offending item has since been removed after this Washington State blogger took notice and publicized it. A screen capture of the original page can be seen below (click to enlarge).

The contact email from the page is listed as Contact Bertha if you'd like to discuss.

I emailed her today to let her know that Christians throughout history are no strangers to persecution and that it may surprise her to learn that most Christians I know expect to see
violent persecution against them in our lifetimes. After all, from the Pharisees to Nero to Stalin, Christians have been killed and tortured for practicing their faith. Many believers are suffering right now around the world in prisons, makeshift jails, and some are even awaiting execution.

However, mockery and violence have served only to make Christianity stronger throughout the ages. Neither Stalin nor Nietzsche could kill it. Christ foretold this in the book of Matthew saying, "All men will hate you because of me" and again in the book of John, "Do not be surprised my brothers if the world hates you."

Many other passages make clear, that if you believe, you will suffer for it. After all, it's easy to deny you believe in anything that's inconvenient or puts you in danger. Also, belief in nothing makes it impossible for you to be a hypocrite.

Of course, persecution of believers does not start all at once. In hindsight, Kristallnacht was a long time in the making. Incrementally, by degree, the heat and hostilities were turned up until outright brutality against a particular group was not only excused, but demanded by law.

I don't know if the average German citizen after WWI interpreted the mockery of Jewish symbols, the rising anti-Semitism, and the national scapegoating as a sign of unimaginable things to come. However, I'm sure there was the same misplaced sense of righteousness among patriotic National Socialists who partook in it.

Illustration from a 1936 German children's book where the headline reads,
"How the Jew Cheats Germany."

The game is definitely afoot. Below are the results of my five minutes of Googling the words "Air America" and "Christian:"

"...a murderous collection of warmongers with whom he [Dick Cheney] operates -- known variously as Republicans, neoconservatives, and Christian conservatives."

" there any doubt left, even among his most ardent and willfully ignorant followers, the Armageddonist Christian fanatics who insist he [President Bush]is a "godly" man..."

"...these bible thumpers in this area are dumb /gullible enough to fall for their crap." "What's the difference between the Taliban and American "Christian" Fundamentalists? Only the Death Toll. "

" this hour. ESTHER KAPLAN, author of "With God On Their Side: How Christian Fundamentalists Trampled Science, Policy and Democracy in George W. Bush's White House."

"The good ole southern boys would like those last three letters. That settles it. The United Corporated Christian States of America is a winner."

To a man praying nearby before a meal, "Your God is one who you sincerely believe gives a flying f*ck about your lunch. Your God is one who you seem to believe watches over you..."

"Did you ever stop to think just what a rancid assh*le such a God would have to be, such that he would take care of the likes of you..."

Ironically, being a Christian demands recognizing hypocrisy in yourself. No good Christian will deny this. As humans, we're imperfect in many ways -- hypocrisy is just one of the sins for which we pray for guidance in defeating.

I would urge the Democratic Party as a whole to reconsider its anti-Christian stances and remarks of late. After all, at what point does it run afoul of their long standing commitment to tolerance?

At what point does this mockery become hypocrisy itself?
"Father, forgive them, for they know not what they do." Luke chapter 23


Blogger Darrell said...

I hope the dems continue with these tactics. They're doing the work of cementing their absence from power for us. Didn't they learn anything in November, 2004?

12/11/2005 06:45:00 PM  
Anonymous ray b said...

Are Christians really getting persecuted in the U.S.A ??? You got numbers on this? And are you saying the Democratic Party is behind this so-called persecution?

I think if this is the current complaint for conservatives to rally against (and for folks like the 700 Club to make money from), then the "victim mentality" has caught up with conservatives as well.

Why do you continue to bad mouth the U.S. of A.??

12/12/2005 09:18:00 AM  
Blogger Bohemian Like You said...

What would you call mockery of the Star of David by the largest opposition party in the US?

12/12/2005 09:52:00 AM  
Anonymous cashman said...

He did not say we are being persecuted he said that comments and attitude like these quoted lead to persecution. By the way I love the way Liberals pull out Pat Robertson or Jerry Farwell when they want to make a point. It is as if Christians are all members of the 700 club or the Moral majority how nostalgic. Is that Duran, Duran on the radio and Reagan debating Mondale on the TV, now why don’t you get back in the DeLorean and join us in 2005.

12/12/2005 10:14:00 AM  
Anonymous ray b said...

There may have been "mockery" of a Christian symbol by a few individuals in the Democratic Party (in Wash. state) BUT NOT by the Entire organized Democratic Party, probably most of whom are Christians. My guess is that their point (those folks who put that particular fish sympol with the word hypocrit (sp?) was that a lot of so-called Christians are hypocrits (sp?)-- which is not news to any of us, is it?

The 700 Club is still around and still making news and still ripping off old, poorly educated, scared Christians (like yourself?).

12/12/2005 10:43:00 AM  
Blogger Bohemian Like You said...

ray b said: "There may have been "mockery" of a Christian symbol by a few individuals in the Democratic Party.."

Does this include you?

12/12/2005 11:28:00 AM  
Anonymous cashman said...

“Poorly educated Christians” Sounds like your doing some Mockery of your own.

12/12/2005 11:45:00 AM  
Anonymous ray b said...

"Poorly educated Christians” Sounds like your doing some Mockery of your own."

What do you call people who send money to folks like Pat Robertson? Intelligent fat cats?


Do I mock religion, yes, but I mock other institutions as well, including higher education, both leading political parties, corporate America, the three branches of gov't, and the recording industry -- like a lot of bloggers I know.

I think V. Lenin was right on two counts: Religion IS the opiate of the masses (because most people really don't study the Bible and its origins and history) and that monuments are for pigeons, or words to that affect.

As for J. Lennon:

"Keep you doped with religion and sex and TV,
And you think you're so clever and classless and free,
But you're still fucking peasents as far as I can see..."

12/12/2005 12:20:00 PM  
Blogger Bohemian Like You said...

Funny you mention Lenin...

Do you realize more people were killed at the hands of enlightened (or educated as you say) atheists in the 20th century than *all* other centuries combined?

Lenin, Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot, Mao, et al. Hitler was a firm believer in Nietzsche. Many contend that the Final Solution was effectively written by Nietzsche, not Hitler. Hitler merely carried it out.

It may surprise you, but most Christians I know fear secularism, atheism, humanism, etc.. more than Al Qaeda for this reason.

Like many Christians, I have never been mocked in person or made to feel ignorant or threatened by a Muslim, Jew, or Hindu. However, I can't say the same about atheists.

Further, Christians are compelled by their beliefs to recognize hypocrisy within ourselves and to correct it. You’re right – at times, we are hypocritical. We humans are ok; it’s just our behavior that lets us down. Such is the human condition.

You seem to think you're incapable or beyond hypocrisy though. Are you?

I don't think you would dare say the same things about Jews or blacks that you've said about Christians.

But, you can prove me wrong by denigrating them with equally insulting slurs right here - right now.

I'll be waiting for your epithets.

12/12/2005 02:38:00 PM  
Anonymous cashman said...

Rayb said...

What do you call people who send money to folks like Pat Robertson? Intelligent fat cats?

I do not call them anything they must have had a spiritual need he met and gave. Maybe something he said about Jesus helped them and they gave or maybe they are doing good work in an area they have a passion for. I could go to their website and find a list of good works they do with the money also but it is irrelevant. I do not judge their intelligence or education it was a matter of the heart not the intellect. His ministry is not representative of all Christians and peaked in popularity in the 80’s but it’s still involved in good work regardless of Pat's hoof in mouth issues.

As to Lenin any social experiment that leads to the extermination of multiple millions has little redeeming value to me. If you want to site church atrocities back at me under stand one thing for me first. The church has 2000 years of history the other about a century yet you can take all church related butchery and multiply them by 10 and you may approach the death toll of Communism and Nazism. I doubt you could surprise me with any bit of dark history in the church I have not heard of. Its members by the way belong to this very flawed group called the human race that has abused power from before recorded history. It is Nietzsche and Lenin that gave us to Stalin and Hitler not the church.

12/12/2005 03:15:00 PM  
Anonymous ray b said...

To paraphrase someone even Bush apparently likes, the God I know isn't short on cash mister... The 700 Club and folks like that act like without the money they get, they can't continue the ministry. Whole Lotta BS going there...

Don't you all agree we should tax churches -- imagine the money we can raise just from the Catholic Church -- and all that money could be spent on health care, food for the poor or on education... I know you'ld all go for that.

12/13/2005 08:48:00 AM  
Anonymous cashman said...

John Marshall wrote "The power to tax involves the power to destroy” I am not fond of expanding this destructive power of the state over religious organizations.

As to the Catholic Church it spends money on taking care of the poor and sick more efficiently than any government program ever could.

12/13/2005 10:43:00 AM  
Blogger f mcdonald said...

ray b
-- like a lot of bloggers I know.

Ok, I'll bite. What's your url?

12/13/2005 09:38:00 PM  
Anonymous ray b said...

Don't have a URL -- yet.

Hope you all have a great holiday season.

12/14/2005 10:44:00 AM  

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